Still4Hill

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1. on August 29, 2010 at 7:31 pm | Reply Lilly

   Thank you Still for our daily Hillary fix! I hope that she will finally show among people tomorrow! 😉

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   • on August 29, 2010 at 7:34 pm | Reply still4hill

     Well, she has a really busy week ahead of her, so sooner or later we will see her. I hope she got some decent rest over the past week. She works so hard.

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2. on August 29, 2010 at 8:22 pm | Reply PCFS

   Thanks so much Still for the Hillary pictures. I believe she has a lot on her plate coming up this week.

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   • on August 29, 2010 at 8:29 pm | Reply still4hill

     Awwwww … you know it’s my pleasure to share these with you! Yes she has quite a week coming up. Bibi is promising that predictions of failure will be incorrect. If they manage to hammer something out, it will be wonderful for everybody!

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3. on August 29, 2010 at 10:20 pm | Reply natalina

   Thanks for your wonderful slideshow !

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   • on August 29, 2010 at 10:36 pm | Reply still4hill

     The pleasure is all mine! 😀

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4. on August 29, 2010 at 11:29 pm | Reply discourseincsharpminor

   That’s quite a collection! Great work! Here’s to the end of the Hillary drought.

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   • on August 29, 2010 at 11:36 pm | Reply still4hill

     Thank you! And yes, cheers! A rainfall of new Hillary remarks, accomplishments, and pictures incoming this week. (And the crowd *sighs*.)

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5. on August 29, 2010 at 11:34 pm | Reply natalina

   So…when a real woman is also a real political,
   she is a great political woman,
   …a pure quality in our world!
   Expecially when we think to you like a Unique World Real standard of leader woman ! We hope in your great qualities to hope We hope in your great qualities to hope a better World of Peace !
   There is an incredible necessity of your qualitiy of Power and Diplomacy. Thanks to exist … Mrs Hillary.

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   • on August 29, 2010 at 11:42 pm | Reply still4hill

     That is a lovely sentiment, Natalina! Lovely!

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6. on August 30, 2010 at 9:25 pm | Reply Donna

   The Democratic party needs to face reality. If Obama runs again, he will take down the whole party. Imagine, four more years of Republicans running the country.

   The left is, by and large, disenchanted with Obama, the center backed Hillary to begin with, and the caucuses rigging that went on in 2008 will most certainly come back to haunt OBama because the right wing knows about it and will absolutely be using it to defeat him.
   Win another term. No, he can’t. When the whole ugly caucus rigging story comes out, and the investigation goes deep, Obama could even face impeachment.

   Obama needs to man up and step down.
   He’s a lost cause, and making Hillary our Democratic presidential candidate is all that will redeem our party.

   So, when do we start the “Draft Hillary Clinton For President” page here on FB, Are there any blog sites on that same issue yet? We may have to draft her this time, after the way she was treated, especially by people in her own party, last primary. I think it hurt her far worse than she ever let show. She has too much maturity and dignity.

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   • on August 30, 2010 at 9:37 pm | Reply still4hill

     I agree with everything you said, Donna, and especially this:

     I think it hurt her far worse than she ever let show.

     You have no idea how many times, when I have said anything like that, the Fauxminists and Feminazis swooped down on me and lashed me with how strong Hillary Clinton is. Yes, I know she is strong, but she is not a machine. She is human, and we, who love her, know her heart. She is very sensitive.

     I don’t think we will have to draft her. I think the DNC will finally wake up, and she will accept to run. Given the topic, I am going to copy your comment to the post with that video we were all looking at today. I think this comment is a good response to some of what I read over there. 🙂

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     • on August 30, 2010 at 10:23 pm | Reply discourseincsharpminor

       At the risk of being labeled a Fauxminist or a Feminazi, I’ll reply. I don’t think Secretary Clinton is sensitive. I think that, aside from stuff said about her daughter and maybe the allegations of racism, the personal attacks just roll off of her. Being called names has been part of American politics since there has been American politics. I think her supporters’ and her family’s feeling get hurt by what’s said about. Her own feelings are pretty hard to get at, I think.

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       • on August 30, 2010 at 10:47 pm | Reply still4hill

         You are NOT a Fauxminist. That is a Republican infiltrator who goes under the guise of a feminist (Democrat) and stomps all over anybody who tries to defend Hillary Clinton (pretty specifically HER).

         A Feminazi (you are not one of those, either) is a “feminist” who thinks all strong women have to transgender to male – and then they’ll be really great “women.”

         I do think the remarks about Chelsea and about Bill did hurt her. She did get hurt. But I think she healed and is even stronger.

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7. on August 30, 2010 at 10:00 pm | Reply Donna

   AGAIN,
   So, when do we start the “Draft Hillary Clinton For President” page here on FB,

   The DNC’s treatment of Hillary was beneath contempt. Once the public is made aware of what really went on in 2008, and it will, many will turn against the party.
   UNLESS WE MAKE HER OUR NOMINEE. It’s time to set things right. Give it back to the average voters.

   She may need to know her supporters are still here, for real, and this time we’re ready. This will not be a replay of 2008.

   I wonder how many people out there even know that Hillary was the first woman running for president who ever one even one state in a primary?
   Even one state!
   Then went on to win state after state, only to have two states taken from her by the DNC. Clearly they felt their opinions were more valid than the votes of millions of average voters, whose votes would have made Hillary our nominee.

   Imagine fighting that hard to win a campaign, then have a handful of high-flown jerks just take it away. Small wonder she has qualms.

   I remember how touched she was when someone asked her how she was holding up. I think she was just starting to understand what she was in for, after the Iowa caucus.

   I remember how she got tears in her eyes and her voice cracked just a bit as she explained that, for her, election was very personal. How she didn’t want to see things go backward.

   After hearing about what went on in the Iowa caucus, how women were called filthy names when they tried to speak at the caucus. I think that was very much on her mind as she campaigned in New Hampshire.

   Then, just to prove sexism was alive and well, the obedient media went “Woo Hoo” and claimed that Hillary had suffered a “break down” and “cried.” She certainly did neither. Besides, male candidates cry all the time, and no one says they are “unstable.” What’s with that?
   That was only the beginning.

   I think that it’s also a big part of why she insists she wont run in 2012. Who would want to go through that sort of circus and degradation again? Though I absolutely believe it would be very, very different this time.

   Also, her supporters wont be caught off guard this time around. We wont be silenced, afraid or bullied in caucuses ever again. We will be prepared to stand together and not allow the “antics” that went on in 2008 to happen again. Bring it on.

   We also need a Media Instant Action Alert on the internet, to stop all the Hillary bashing that went on so unopposed in 2008. No, We Will Not Be Silenced This Time.

   But I don’t think it would be as bad as that travesty of a primary. Also, I think she must know that she is very needed right now. Hillary is nothing if not someone who can be counted on in a crises, and our nation is in crises now. Hillary in 2012!

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   • on August 30, 2010 at 10:33 pm | Reply discourseincsharpminor

     Besides, male candidates cry all the time, and no one says they are “unstable.” What’s with that?

     Thank you! That’s what I’d like to know, too! Biden got a bit sniffly in the debate (referencing the lose of his first wife) and nobody thought he was unfit for the Vice Presidency. And lets not even talk about Dubya or Bill Clinton and their Presidential Waterworks. I always thought far too much was made over her slightly watery eyes. They weren’t a sign of female weakness (an idea that irks me to no end) but of human emotion. Having emotions is a good thing. They help a politician relate to others.

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   • on August 30, 2010 at 10:54 pm | Reply still4hill

     Yes, Donna , that’s why THIS day she wedged Ushahidi in. That is the tool, and she was telling us to use it. I almost fell over when she slid that little tidbit in. Look at the bolded text in this post.

     https://still4hill.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/video-text-secretary-clintons-remarks-at-the-presidents-forum-with-young-african-leaders/

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8. on August 30, 2010 at 10:06 pm | Reply Donna

   I truly love you, STillForHill. But I think it’s only fair to tell you that I am a feminist. Heart and Soul. So those names kind of stung.

   Maybe you have the wrong impression of what a feminist is? Or just know some who are jerks. There are bad apples in every group. And a lot of people who call themselves feminists are anything but. Just bigots.
   Take Care Friend.

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   • on August 30, 2010 at 10:35 pm | Reply still4hill

     Donna, I am a feminist, too. The people I am talking about were heartless. I am not talking about normal feminists, I am talking about people who countenanced no sympathy, for example, when Hillary broke her elbow and literally expected her not to feel the pain. When others expressed sympathy, they came down on them like a ton of bricks saying talk like that weakens Hillary’s image. Neither would they countenance ANY appreciation of Hillary’s personal style and beauty. They called it sexist. Quite frankly, some people who are very dear to me (and still are my friends here and at Facebook) were attacked mercilessly merely for appreciating an aricle of clothing that looked nice on Hillary. That is why I call them by those names. Some are not feminists at all (Fauxminists) – they are what we called in the 70s “agents provocateurs” and I believe they were dirty trickster Republicans. The Feminazis MAY be feminists, but they carry it so far that they expect women to become men. Real feminists are fine with me. I am too. Nobody here is either of those things.

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9. on August 30, 2010 at 11:51 pm | Reply Donna

   I agree. I have no problem at all with being a woman, and I too get angry when people try to say that feminists are trying to be, or should try to be, just like men. I just want to be myself.

   I am not at all ashamed of being feminine in my taste in clothes and furniture, being emotional, being very sentimental, just gushing love on my family, cooing like an idiot over a baby, and considering myself a die hard feminist. To me, it’s not about how I dress or walk or if I seem feminine or not.

   It’s about not allowing anyone to bully, intimidate, or hold me back, ever, in any way, in my pursuit of happiness because I am a woman.

   Poor Hillary. I honestly don’t think she had any idea that she would face the crass sexism she did in 2008. It was sure an eye opener for me. I thought we’d come a long way, baby, lol. A lot further than we have, going by that debacle in 2008. I was astounded by how badly she was treated and still very angry about it. That cool though, it will just make me work harder to make her president in 2012. And this time, we will all know what we are in for.

   No matter what she did, it was wrong. If she showed strength, she was cold blooded. If she showed emotion, got tears in her eyes, she was weak. When she got angry, she was “unstable,” the oldest sexist stereotype on earth, IMO. Not to mention the sexist names she was constantly called.

   Plus people were saying, “Can we trust an unstable woman to have her finger on the nuke button?” Please, we just had Bush’s unstable finger there for eight years! He sure never hesitated in showing anger, relished in it in fact. And that was just fine, somehow.

   Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for men being free to show their emotions. I remember a time when that was not allowed.

   I confess, I didn’t go into that campaign an ardent supporter of Hillary’s. I liked her, but wanted to be fair and give everyone a chance. Hear them out.

   As I watched Hillary walk a razor’s edge of behavior, one that none of the male candidates were required to walk, I grew to greatly respect her. More and more each day.

   I campaigned hard for her, and was happily surprised when my then eighteen year old son joined that campaign, and when some of his friends supported her too.

   My entire family, husband and two sons, all supported her very strongly. In fact, we all did write in votes for Hillary on election day. We felt we had not been allowed to vote for the person who really won the nomination, so we just voted for her anyway out of protest.

   She now remains my hero and inspiration. What an incredible woman she is, and isn’t it amazing, despite how hard Obama tried to put her in the background, as SOS, two years down the line, she just so outshines him.

   If the Democrats don’t make her our next presidential candidate . . . I honestly fear another four years of the GOP. America can’t take that.
   Take care,

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   • on August 31, 2010 at 12:19 am | Reply still4hill

     YES! Everything you said, Donna!

     I thought we had fought (and WON) those battles in the 70s. I thought all of that was behind us and was SHOCKED into reality by the extant sexism which is appreciable at least if not rampant (not to mention the misogyny).

     Scales fell from my eyes and I saw the truth. I, too, gave everyone a fair ear. Maybe BECAUSE I was lulled into thinking all was now fair, I had a special appreciation for the depth of Hillary’s preparation (because I always have to make sure I am over-prepared – why?), her organization of information (because I always have to be very over-organized – why?), and for her toughness in the face of horrendous attacks (because I have had to depend on some steel I have grown in my spine – why?).

     Why? Because things never DID equalize! WE changed! Women changed and made sure we were prepared, organized, and tough, but then men, sexists, and misogynists never moved from where the potsy first fell.

     Now we know. I have no illusions – you don’t, and I don’t think Hillary has any either. That glass ceiling they erected is safety glass – like a windshield. We have to poke through it with something sharp. Hillary Clinton is the sharpest instrument in the toolbox, as I see it. After what we saw her endure, she deserves her chance and I am ready to fight all over again … if she will.

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10. on August 30, 2010 at 11:55 pm | Reply Donna

    Goodnight and Sweet Dreams to all.

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    • on August 31, 2010 at 12:20 am | Reply still4hill

      Good night, Donna!

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