Well, it is not a read. It is a sound byte. Corollary to his November 21 WSJ op-ed with Doug Schoen, Pat Caddell spoke on Sean Hannity’s radio show issuing a call for a write-in campaign for Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire.
Media Reads on a Hillary Run: November 26, 2011 Edition
November 26, 2011 by still4hill
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Thank you, Steve! I just added your blog to the blog roll. 🙂
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This is the real deal, folks. These guys aren’t playing.
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No they aren’t. They are rolling out a plan!
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On Hannity? Well, actually , now that I think of it, it makes sense. Not every Republican wants an idiot in office, Gingrich needs a separate campaign plane for his political baggage, the more
intelligentmoderate candidates (Huntsman), or are about as exciting as lukewarm, plain oatmeal (Romney).LikeLike
*… moderate candidates (Huntsman) either aren’t catching on, or …
Sorry.
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I was trying to figure that one out – most of the time I can read your mind….
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Glad one of us usually can. As you can see, I have difficulties with that “code” too. 🙂
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When you have a message to get out, you use any bullhorn you are handed, I guess. We got the message, didn’t we? I saw a Newsmax release where WJC gave Newt some kudos. (Watch WJC … and listen).
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I thought he wasn’t doing much publically. Very under the radar recently.
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Very public! He has a book to promote!
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I know that, but I haven’t heard about any appearances since he was on the Daily Show. He seems to be campaigning for his book out among the people.
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i seem to recall pat caddell being pretty critical of hillary in the primaries. hmm…
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Well, one kind of change we all can buy into is change for the better.
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Yeah. Didn’t he say he’d emigrate if she became president?
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We accept all converts.
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lol
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WOW! Hillary is extraordinary and is great to listen to all these guys praising her ! Hope this talk runs and runs Hillary runs and/or is nominated at the Convention!
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Well, this is the beginning – a write-in campaign in NH. I hope this catches fire!
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On the one hand no one would be happier than I for Hillary to be the POTUS. However, given the horror of the 2008 primary with all the unethical, not to mention illegal, shenanigans that went on, I don’t know that I could take another round. The dem leadership were primarily the instigators who paved the way for Hillary’s “defeat”, behind the scenes, of course.
I don’t think there is any way Pelosi, Reid, Brazil, Rep Jesse Jackson Jr, Rep James Clyburn, the DNC, the other AA leaders, not to mention the media believers in 0bama would *ever* unanimously endorse Hillary as suggested in the Caddell-Schoen piece. They do not want to appear to be throwing in the towel on their 2008 choice. I fear it would be the biggest mess imagineable – dividing the dems as in 1980 with half of them sitting it out. Plus the republicans are loaded for bear!
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Something’s got to give! Palin’s peeps are petitioning her for Iowa. It’s not 2008 anymore. It’s time for a voter revolt. That handful of names is not the party. We are the party. There is a time for the towel to be thrown in. It is now.
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Pelosi’s been treated pretty badly by the White House since the midterms. Reid nearly lost his seat to that Tea Party wingnut, so he has his own career to worry about. One of the things that drew voters to Obama was his appearant lack of political wheeling and dealing. The downside to that is that there are no deeply held loyalties there for him now that the rosy glow has worn off. With all the talk of her performance as Secretary of Stat and daydreams of the good ol’ days of the Clinton era economy floating around out there, and if they were given a choice, I’m not so sure Obama’s supporters in the party leadership and many who voted for him in the primary wouldn’t see Hillary Clinton as better presidential material.
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Ahhh… yes. We wipe the fog off the glasses. (Considering that he is political poison to those Dems up for reelection.) Common sense has to prevail!
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From your lips S4H..to Gods ear!! I hope so to.
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If there is a switch, it’ll be because obama wants to save face and avoid a humiliating defeat in 2012. He’ll probably wait until the eleventh hour for the political forecast by convention time and make his call then.
If Hillary jumps in, it will only come after lots of quiet backroom negotiations between her team and the White House. No sequel.
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This has nothing to to with negotiations. It’s a write-in campaign. Some people are long finished with waiting to see Obama’s “grand plan.” He is the empty suit we always knew he was.
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If there was an eleventh hour decision by the president to go the route of LBJ, then I’m not entirely sure there would even be the time to pull together a campaign strong enought to go up against a well financed opponent.
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Still,
If the write in’s are big enough this will happen in other states as well. She will get lots of media attention you watch.
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Yep. 🙂
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I did some homework just now. Hillary won the NH Primary in 2008 with over 112,000 votes. Can a candidate get this many votes with a write-in campaign? Yes. Lisa Murkowski got over 100,000 in 2010 with her write-in Senate campaign. So it CAN be done and it HAS been done.
The key difference with the 2012 NH Primary is that Hillary herself is an undeclared candidate who will not be campaigning. The other differences are $$$ and publicity, but Schoen and Caddell are professionals who know how to spread the word and get stuff done.
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Nice work, Jen! Waiting to see the next step Caddell and Schoen take.
Edited to add: NH has a “semi-open” primary. Those not registered as D or R may vote in either one, but those registered with a party may not cross party lines.
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Can you imagine Hillary Clinton, a favorite target for right wing bluster for a few decades now, winning a Republican primary? Can you just see the pundits at POX trying to spin that?
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That’s good. With a semi-open primary, the Independents can come in and vote for Hillary. Also, if Hillary does well, the powers-that-be cannot blame it on “Republicans trying to make trouble for Obama.” At any rate, it’s unlikely that the Pubs would cross party lines even if it was allowed. They have their own internal battles to fight.
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Not sure where this will go. Schoen and Caddell are long time Dems but don’t think they are influential within the current Dem party. People may want to draft her but she won’t step into the fray with Obama still in contention. He should voluntarily step out first for her to step in.
Something I read today makes me think she will become the next Secretary General of the UN. Ban Ki Moon’s term is up in 2012 and I think she will be the next, first female UN SG.
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I saw this, but it’s not going to happen. Obama is no LBJ and he will not relinquish power that easily.
Alas………
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The Dem Congressional Exodus has begun. There is a message to be taken. Also the NH write-in campaign is underway. The DNC always thinks it can put a surface layer of cement over very deep cracks. Three years later and the cracks are not only still there, they are deeper. Barney Frank and Charles Gonzalez are the tip of the iceberg. More to come. Obama is toxic to incumbents.
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Yes, I just read that every House critter who chose not to run for reelection is a Democrat. You’re right, many Democrats who are up for reelection don’t want Obama to campaign for them. It irks me that the party will probably expect Bill to do the heavy lifting and cross the country campaigning for various Democrats. He should tell them to go to hell after the crap that they put him and his wife through in 2008.
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I believe there are a handful of Republican retirements but the Dems’ retirements have certainly spiked. Obama is only going to be an effective campaign asset in very, very solidly Democratic districts like my own CT-3, where the incumbent congresswoman won re-election by something like 67% in 2010. Outside of places like that, I think he will be more of a problem.
I don’t think that the party will be looking for Bill Clinton to pick up the slack though because of the lingering fallout from 2008. He campaigns for old friends and those who supported his wife, but I don’t think he’ll be drafted as a stand-in Democratic president.
The likelihood that Obama pulls an LBJ is absolutely microscopic, but his approval ratings and the economic numbers are low enough that I won’t completely dismiss it.
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When they emailed me today, I responded that Barney and Charles Gonzalez are only the tip of the iceberg. They are going to lose it all if they don’t dump Obama.
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I don’t know about that. For a long time Democratic district to go Republican you need two things – an incumbent that has been somehow weakened, in this case by association with Obama, and a challenger who can beat them. I would put money down on some of these Democratic Congresspersons getting re-elected if they choose not to resign. Here’s an example. Nancy Pelosi, someone detested even by a fair number of Democrats, won her district with over 70% of the vote due not entirely to her strength as a politician which had taken a big hit since the ’08 election, but because the person running against her, a Tea Party backed conservative, was never going to win in that liberal a district. The candidates to beat some of the incumbents are not there.
That all said, Barney Frank’s resignation has me wondering if we will see some ranking House members like Steny Hoyer or even the former Speaker herself follow suit. Being a member of the minority party in the House is the definition of political irrelevance and I’m wondering how much of that the older House Dems are willing to hang around for.
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That is exactly the scenario some predict. That they wll step down due to unwinability. Check out Karen Finney on demographics, economics, and electability.
http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/karen-finney/195749-politics-inch-by-inch#.TtVp53ohiOw.facebook
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I’m not saying that those members can’t win their own district, I’m saying they might not want to hang around wasting years waiting for power to come their way again so they can have a say in things.
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Some have been redistricted and think they cannot win their new district. Watch Kucinich.
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That’s right. His district was combined with another popular Democrats district.
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