Still4Hill

Posted in Hillary Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton, U.S. Congress | Tagged Hillary Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton, U.S. Congress | 14 Comments

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1. on January 4, 2019 at 8:33 am | Reply Brassy Rebel

   Wonderful response from Ilhan Omar. More of this, please!

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2. on January 4, 2019 at 8:36 am | Reply Brassy Rebel

   I still love her election night comment too: In Minnesota, we don’t demonize immigrants; we send them to congress!

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3. on January 4, 2019 at 11:38 am | Reply Brassy Rebel

   And now Dan Merica is reporting that a number of potential 2020 candidates have been talking to Hillary with Kamala Harris and Cory Booker, two people to whom she already has ties, topping the list. Excellent. This shows that they understand that they cannot succeed by dissing HRC and that no one understands “what happened” in 2016 better than she. Not to mention her encyclopedic knowledge of American politics and policy. I am encouraged by this.

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   • on January 5, 2019 at 10:54 am | Reply still4hill

     It also leads me to think she won’t endorse in the primaries. She’s the guru and open to any and all who go to her for counsel.

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     • on January 5, 2019 at 1:19 pm | Reply Brassy Rebel

       I agree. Some are framing it as a competition for her endorsement. She will let Democratic voters decide and endorse the eventual nominee. It will also prevent media from furthering the “she’s so divisive” narrative which you know they would LOVE to do. Nick Merrill said her door is open to all Democratic candidates who seek her out.

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   • on January 6, 2019 at 10:21 am | Reply still4hill

     Decided to mount a post about this today, since it happened when everyone was celebrating Congress coming in. Wanted to have it on record up front. Hillary is “Coach.”

     

     

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4. on January 5, 2019 at 1:36 pm | Reply Brassy Rebel

   People are saying how smart Warren is to announce so early. May be smart but is also necessary. She’s never been to Iowa. Others like Harris and Booker campaigned there during midterms. And Iowa is not crucial for them. It is essential for Warren who absolutely must do well there and in New Hampshire to remain viable. If she doesn’t, she’s probably toast since the calendar does not favor her after that. More diverse states are not likely to go her way.

   I will now remove my pundit hat.

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5. on January 5, 2019 at 3:07 pm | Reply Brassy Rebel

   Also I have no idea what Joy Reid meant this morning when she “defended” Warren from HRC comparisons by sayimg she and Hillary are “ideological opposites”. It made no sense when she said it and still doesn’t hours later. That whole panel was garbage with Beth Fouhy spewing her usual Hillary trash. Fouhy asserted that EW is “a more dynamic speaker” than HRC. Maybe when Warren delivers a speech like Hillary’s Beijing speech declaring, women’s rights are human rights, we can have that debate. But for now, there is no comparison. Joy needs to clean this up or lose me, starting with how two Democrats can be “ideological opposites”. 🤔

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6. on January 5, 2019 at 8:12 pm | Reply wynne05

   Brassy,

   I had the same reaction about Joy’s statement that Hillary and Elizabeth were ideological opposites!!! I found myself screaming at the TV. When they were saying the same crap about Hillary when she was running against sanders, they failed to acknowledge the fact that Hillary voted 95% the same way as sanders. sanders voted in favor of the NRA gun legislation, Hillary didn’t! No one gives sanders s__t for his support for the NRA….oh, I forgot, he’s a guy! Here’s your pass….

   IMO, Warren is not a dynamic speaker. She sounds too hyper and almost out of control when making a point and somewhat of a cheerleader quality in how she addresses people and the issues. Hillary, on the other hand, was, let’s face it, “Presidential” whenever she spoke. I also thought Hillary was likeable, but more importantly, smart, informed, knowledgeable, engaged at the highest level. I have yet to see anyone, male or female, vying to run in 2020 that holds a candle to her. While I don’t see Warren as presidential material, I do see her in the cabinet.

   I am very angry at Joy and the rest of those women who put Hillary down. It’s almost as if they felt they would be more well-received by the men if they put her down rather than defend her.

   I’ve checked to see if there is a phone number that would connect me with Joy’s office so that I could speak to a person to express my anger and total disagreement with what she said about Hillary. The only thing I found was e-mail. Still4Hill, do you have any inside info on how we could contact Joy’s office? This kind of reporting has got to stop and those of us who support Hillary should not sit quietly by and allow it to continue.

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   • on January 6, 2019 at 10:27 am | Reply still4hill

     Unfortunately, no I don’t have any direct contact info on Joy. I would recommend contacting her via her Twitter account @JoyAnnReid.

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7. on January 5, 2019 at 8:14 pm | Reply wynne05

   About the NRA bill…I meant for it to read that he voted the legislation that favored the NRA and Hillary did not.

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   • on January 6, 2019 at 6:34 am | Reply Brassy Rebel

     Thanx to Bernie, the word “progressive” has been redefined so narrowly that it now only means that you hate banks and Wall St. with the heat of a thousand suns.

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8. on January 6, 2019 at 8:21 am | Reply wynne05

   Brassy,

   Don’t get me started on sanders. I’m still filled with anger on how he behaved like a petulant child when he lost the primary. He then showed his true colors and began acting like trump, the Russian Bernie bros, the media and the republicans in his attacks against her.

   Bernie is all talk but no substance. Never knew how to build coalitions and consensus during his long 30 year stay in house and senate as an “independent” not a “democrat”, but still believed the dems should hand him the nomination! During the primary, when asked how he would implement his plans with the banks, free healthcare and college for everyone (and who was going to pay for it all), he couldn’t do it. Hillary had all of her policies posted on her website explaining how she could achieve them and how they would be paid for, but no one paid attention. The media spent only 8 minutes talking about her detailed, proposed policies and spent the rest of the time talking about her e-mails. Not one person in the media ever confronted Bernie on his total lack of specifics on how he was going to achieve all of the things he was wagging his finger about. He just gave speeches which were screaming fests and acted like he was entitled to the nomination because his ego is the same size as trump’s. They never vetted him and his campaign manager’s ties to Manafort. No, he like trump were given free passes. Now we find out years later that this true progressive’s campaign was sexist and he’s playing dumb about it.

   Hillary beat him in the primaries by large margins and ultimately won 4 million more votes than Bernie but the media and his followers still blame the DNC for “sabotaging” his getting the nomination. The American people and not the DNC chose Hillary as the nominee by a larger margin than they did Obama. Ironically, it was Obama who was aided and abetted by the DNC to ensure his nomination!

   sanders is the other side of the trump coin. his followers are like a cult who are deaf, dumb and blind to anyone who disagrees with them. sanders is just another old white guy who believes “only he can fix it”! The problem is, these same white guys are the reason we are now having to deal with all of these problems that need fixing.

   OK, I’m through with my rant!

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9. on January 6, 2019 at 11:47 am | Reply wynne05

   For what it’s worth, I sent the following e-mail to Joy Reid regarding the derogatory remarks made by her and others on her all female panel about Hillary:

   Dear Joy,

   I was very disappointed, even angered, by your recent statement on your Saturday show 1/5/2019 where you announced with certainty (bereft of facts) that Hillary Clinton is the ideological opposite of Elizabeth Warren. I don’t know where you get your data on the subject or worse, didn’t do your homework, but what you said is just not true. I am sure we can all agree that Warren and Bernie Sanders are cut from the same cloth as far as their “progressive” creds go. So, while in the Senate, it is well documented that Hillary and Sanders voted 93% the same way. Hardly any daylight between their differences. To further support my assertion, please read the following article which Newsweek documented in showing just how closely aligned Hillary and Sanders actually were while they served at the same time in the Senate: https://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/26/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-alike-426301.html
   I was also appalled when one your panelist, Ms. Fouhy, then proceeded to disparage Hillary even further by saying Warren was a more dynamic speaker than Hillary was. Really? Did any of these learned journalist ever listen to her speech in Beijing when she courageously spoke out for the women of China (and for women around the world) and in that DYNAMIC speech uttered these memorable words: “human rights are women’s rights and women’s rights are human rights” Warren’s being animated and almost frantic while giving a speech does not necessarily mean she is a great speaker. Some of us prefer the kind of speaker Hillary is because she doesn’t rely almost solely on emotion to make the point, she relies on facts and solutions. Hardly exciting to a “reality show based world” but we got trump because the media focused more on personality than substance, which gave him the credibility he NEVER deserved to even be running for president. As a result, we have the media to thank for not vetting trump (nor Sanders) due to their ad nauseum attacks over those damn e-mails! BTW, her e-mail server was never hacked into, unlike the RNC, DNC and Panetta, but we never hear that reported in the news! Why not? Of course, Ivanka Trump can use a private e-mail server and there is hardly a ripple from the media. What? Sounds like an ingrained bias against Hillary to me.

   Like it or not, millions of Americans supported Hillary (still do) which resulted in her winning the popular vote against Obama, Sanders and Trump. Hardly an indication that she was a “bad candidate” but really an excuse used by the media for their biased reporting of who this woman truly is and what her record really was, tinged with sexism and misogyny which was spewed at her 24/7 from all sides.

   She warned us about trump and the Russians but you guys dismissed her. Nonetheless, with what’s been unfolding from the Mueller investigation, she has been vindicated for her ability to see what was right in front of us all along (a great quality for someone vying to be president don’t you think?). Unfortunately, the media was too busy putting her in her place, rather than investigating trump’s ties to Russia. Moreover, if an all female panel cannot see the light of how wrong they are in continuing to make these unfounded derogatory remarks about Hillary, then what the hell is the MeToo movement for? Didn’t Speaker Pelosi say in your Townhall meeting with her that “women should have each other’s backs.” What she really meant was, they shouldn’t be stabbing them in the back.

   Kathleen Wynne

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