I remain buried in Hillary’s Trolls, Bots, Fake News, and Real Russians chapter. The more I read there, the more certain I am that the Hillary Clinton coalition on Facebook has not only been infiltrated, but that the incursion is effective. A few points.
In this chapter, quoting a Time article she refers to “soft” Clinton supporters. I think that is what I was trying to articulate yesterday in this post. I referred to the “old guard” Hillary supporters that I met and friended in 2008 as opposed to the “new friends” that I accepted in the course of the last campaign and afterwards. That old guard consists of hard core, seasoned Hillary supporters who went through a great deal in 2008 and never had any impulse or intention of hiding their support in secret groups. They are the ones who waited for years for Hillary to declare again and were prepared to jump on the already moving train. The newbies were just meeting Hillary for the first time. Many had been Obama supporters in the past and never paid any attention to Hillary previously. I met many of these at early organizing meetings. Their eyes would widen as we related well known facts about Hillary. It was all new to them. I don’t count all the newbies as “soft” supporters, but I think all the soft ones were newbies.
These newbies are also the ones friending the Facebook trolls I have sniffed out. Not just friending. Believing. Quoting.
Further, in the same paragraph.
“It’s against the law to use foreign money to support a candidate, as well as for campaigns to coordinate with foreign entities….”
I know you knew this and knew that Hillary knew it. I raise it because I did publicly question one of these folks. She claimed to have worked for the campaign. I asked what she did, and she said she campaigned online (despite not knowing a single name of any of the folks directing the social media campaign) and donated money. I told her privately that she was impugning Hillary, whom she claimed to “love,” since foreign donations are illegal. There was no remorse. She fought back. Well, she would have donated if ….
Another, from a different Eastern European country, listed herself as having worked as a personal assistant, Hillary for America. When I confronted that lie, I was told she would have been a great personal assistant if she had worked for HFA which she could not because she was in and of the wrong country.
Wow! There’s a whole lot of subjunctivity going on there.
At this point, you might be thinking that they are just wannabes, and what’s so bad about that? I hear you. But there is something more insidious. A darker agenda hidden deep and disguised among the rhapsodies about Hillary’s big blue eyes.
In this chapter, Hillary quotes Charlie Sykes quoting Garry Kasparov.
“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking and annihilate truth.”
She cites Breitbart as a major source of the propaganda that flowed through Facebook and other social media in 2016. The Harvard study cited here confirms that. The origin of the more formalized posts these Facebook trolls share is unclear, but they are cleverly written and often contain one tiny alarmist kernel.
When I pressed on the issue of attribution, I was told by one of them that I was too academic. That social media is not academic, and citing sources is unnecessary (and, by the way, my kind of insistence on attribution is what lost the election for Hillary). I am very old-fashioned and unhip to expect attribution on social media.
The pending civil war she warned of – the one her friends picked up and posterized – came, it turns out, from a remark by Roger Stone. There’s a credible source!
On another occasion, the alarmist kernel was that the market is headed for a crash. One thing you can always predict about the market is that it will fluctuate. When it rises steadily for a long time, there will be a correction. That warning reminded me of a meme that circulated shortly after Obama was elected. Those on the right warned of a coming apocalyptic crash and encouraged investing in gold and on btc investing. It seems to be coming true with all the alt coins like Veridium coming out daily. Remember when tehy said this would happen?
There is some scuttlebutt about Breitbart, Bannon, and a dip, but what true supporter of Hillary Clinton would gloat over the prospect that her supporters, “fellow Americans,” might lose their investments in their 401Ks and 403Bs? I can tell you. A Fake American disguised as a supporter who is out there to circulate fake news – AKA propaganda.
When I say that these trolls know the language but not the culture, that is part of what I mean. This one did not know that Main St. is already invested in Wall St.
These little cultural items are clues to sniffing them out. But it takes careful reading not cheerleading. As I said, these are little kernels embedded in larger messages that appear to praise Hillary – while often condemning Trump. It is easy to get caught up in the “passion.”
I am still reading that same chapter, slowly, because every so often I have to stop and process the relationship between what I read and what I see happening with these trolls.
I don’t have a sense yet of why these Hillary trolls are soaking up Hillary friends. Of what the objective is. I can at this point say only that I know they are there. I have chatted with a few of them, and from those chats I know they are who I am saying they are. There has to be a reason. I believe we are being targeted every bit as much as these voters as Hillary quotes in her book.
“We know that swing voters were inundated. According to Senator Warner, ‘Women and African Americans were targeted in places like Wisconsin and Michigan.’ One study found that in Michigan alone nearly half of all political news on Twitter in the final days before the election was false or misleading propaganda. Senator Warner has rightly asked: ‘How did they know to go to that level of detail in those kinds of jurisdictions?'”
Your Facebook profile states where you live. These trolls hide their locations and masquerade as Americans. Just being friends with them, you are providing a lot of data. They know where you are, where you live, and a lot about what you think.
How can you tell if your Facebook friend is a foreign troll? Read posts and rants carefully and critically. Sometimes a gift will jump right out at you. I groaned about the prospect of jury duty on a case that will go into October. The response: “Just tell them you don’t want to do it.” Yeah, right. You’re an American! Ha!
I think it comes down to some men hate women in politics who don’t believe like they do so much they literally have Clinton Derangement Syndrome. And because most are men, they think they are entitled to bully a female candidate above and beyond a male candidate.
Unfortunately, the same level of rancor against Barack Obama is now being sent towards Donald Trump. This may ensure his re-election for a variety of reasons. The harder the wind blows against Mr. Trump, the tighter Trump’s core supporters hold onto their windbreakers and Make America Great Again Jackets that were probably made in China, and their support for Trump.
So if Mr. Trump simply comes across as more reasonable than he originally was, the center may accept him for a second term. Meanwhile the Ultra Progressives continue to demand to own the democrat party, which in turn creates a larger center from which Trump can raid, especially if he times it right.
In California, they are going crazy over DACA. Meanwhile perhaps 50,000 senior citizen homeowners are being denied access to MediCAL / MediCAID services in California because the poverty level has not been raised in 25 years, and to make matters worse, these seniors who are paying home property taxes are not allowed to deduct those payments against their annual stated income, resulting in tens of thousands of homeowners either being outright disqualified from even just a modest amount of monthly help via the In Home Supportive Services program, or, getting in with a very modest supplemental insurance policy purchase.
I think California Progressives are using the immigration issue to drown out other issues that would help those who have been taxpayers all of their life. if the Republicans were not so bullheaded about hating every social program ever created, they could shock California Democrats and gain considerable popularity even in California.
Just the tip of the iceberg was the recent lawsuit filed by workers against a celebrity’s restaurant. The workers claimed the owners stole 1.5 million dollars in tips over the past 18 months and they have filed suit. They tried to negotiate in good faith for months but the owners just took that as a sign of weakness. Now they have a lawyer and are suing. Are these the same progressive celebrities who rail against Trump on all issues while they themselves steal from their own waiters and waitresses?
Jerry Brown helped create a 1 trillion dollar pension obligation because of his deals the first time he was governor of California. This time around he actually tried to cover his tracks by proposing the elimination of the In Home Supportive Services program. a program which many regard as being revenue neutral.
I continue to try and get that one simple change to the MediCAL / IHSS program so that 50,000 seniors get a fair shake, and for that reason I am repulsed by both Republicans and Democrats who know they are screwing over Home property tax paying seniors and continue to act like its complicated to allow seniors the right to deduct their home property tax payments from their annual stated income.
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I have just started What Happened and haven’t gotten to this chapter yet. But you have really done your homework! I may be the only person in the U.S. who has never been on Facebook. There are a number of reasons, but it boils down to not trusting that everyone is being honest and transparent. So what you have learned just confirms my thinking. It takes a lot of time and effort to flush out the trolls and bots. Facebook has always struck me as more of a data mining operation than a place to connect with like minded folks, although I do have family who use it just to keep track of each other across the country. Even so, some got taken in by the “fake news” during the campaign. It’s pretty insidious.
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